Attack Your Company with Deepfakes (feat. Jason Thatcher of Breacher.ai)

Welcome back to The FAIK Files!

In this week's special interview episode:

• We sit down with Jason Thatcher, a Deepfake Red Teaming expert from ⁠Breacher.ai⁠.
• We discuss why static deepfakes (like voicemail) are currently outperforming live video attacks.
• The emerging threat of "Agentic AI" and how it changes the landscape for 2026.
• Why teaching people to "spot the glitch" creates a false sense of security.

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*** NOTES AND REFERENCES ***

Guest: Jason Thatcher:

• Jason is a leader in Deepfake Red Teaming, testing people, processes, and technology against AI threats.
• Check out Breacher.ai: ⁠https://breacher.ai/⁠

Key Topics & References:

• Agentic AI: The shift from human-in-the-loop attacks to fully automated, multi-stage orchestration of phishing and voice attacks.
• The $25 Million Deepfake Scam: We discussed the referenced January 2024 case where a finance worker in Hong Kong was tricked by a deepfaked CFO video conference.
• Red Teaming Ethics: How to simulate attacks without creating "leakable disinformation" or jeopardizing employee jobs.
• Defense Strategy: Moving away from visual detection (shadows/glitches) toward context awareness, out-of-band verification, and slowing down.

*** THE BOILERPLATE ***

About The FAIK Files:

The FAIK Files is an offshoot project from Perry Carpenter's most recent book, FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions.

• Get the Book: ⁠⁠FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions⁠⁠ (Amazon Associates link)
• Check out the website for more info: ⁠⁠https://thisbookisfaik.com⁠⁠

Check out Perry & Mason's other show, the Digital Folklore Podcast:

• Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-folklore/id1657374458⁠⁠
• Spotify: ⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2v1BelkrbSRSkHEP4cYffj?si=u4XTTY4pR4qEqh5zMNSVQA⁠⁠

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