CISO Perspectives (public)

CISO Perspectives (public)

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CISO Perspectives explores the evolving landscape of cybersecurity leadership, talent, and risk—because success in cybersecurity is about people, not just technology. Hosted by Kim Jones, veteran CISO and educator, this podcast challenges conventional thinking on leadership, talent pipelines, and the disconnects holding the profession back. Join Kim for candid discussions with industry leaders, and insights that help you build a stronger, more resilient cyber ecosystem.
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Ep 109 | 4.29.25

How do you gain “experience” in cyber without a job in cyber?

While the cybersecurity industry has expanded and grown in recent years, newcomers still struggle to gain relevant "experience" before officially beginning their cyber careers. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with ⁠Kathleen Smith⁠, the Chief Outreach Officer at ⁠clearedjobs.net⁠ and the co-host of ⁠Security Cleared Jobs⁠: Who’s Hiring & How, to discuss this dilemma and what new entrants can do to account for these difficulties. Throughout the conversation, Kathleen and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with entry-level cyber positions, how to gain meaningful experience, and how the industry as a whole contributes to this problem.

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Ep 108 | 4.22.25

Are we a trade or a profession?

Cybersecurity has an identity problem where the industry as a whole is struggling to determine whether it is a trade or a profession. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Larry Whiteside Jr., the Chief Advisory Officer for The CISO Society, to discuss this identity crisis and how the industry as a whole connects to both of these labels. Throughout the conversation, Larry and Kim will discuss the merits and drawbacks of both labels and how cybersecurity does not solely fall into one category or the other.

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Ep 107 | 4.15.25

Is the cyber talent ecosystem broken?

The cyber talent ecosystem faces severe indigestion, which has stifled growth and closed doors to new talent. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ed Adams, the Head of Cybersecurity for North America at the Bureau Veritas Group, to discuss what has caused this indigestion and how leadership can better address these challenges. A key aspect of this conversation revolved around discussing Ed's book, See Yourself in Cyber: Security Careers Beyond Hacking, and how he expands the conversation surrounding traditional roles associated with cybersecurity.

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Ep 105 | 11.25.24

So you want to write a book about AI and cybersecurity?

Caroline Wong discussed the mechanics of writing a cybersecurity book about AI.

Ep 104 | 11.18.24

Cyber-entrepreneurship in the age of CyberAI.

Kevin Magee discusses Cyber-entrepreneurship in the age of CyberAI

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CISO Perspectives (public)
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Kim Jones
Kim Jones is an intelligence, security, and risk management expert with nearly 40 years of experience in information security strategy, governance and compliance, and security operations. He has built, operated, and led security programs across industries, and is the principal architect of one of Arizona State University's cybersecurity education programs. Kim also teaches in SANS' leadership curriculum and UC Berkeley's MICS program. He holds a B.S. in Computer Science from West Point, an M.S. in Information Assurance from Norwich University, and CISM and CISSP certifications.
Schedule: Tuesdays (in season)
Creator: N2K CyberWire
N2K CyberWire